tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post8396653637385859338..comments2024-02-13T21:31:57.980-04:00Comments on Facing Autism in New Brunswick: TIME Promotes Myth That Many With Autism are Highly IntelligentAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comBlogger8125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-63321463277063638052013-10-26T20:24:41.775-03:002013-10-26T20:24:41.775-03:00jazziza
The article title is "Could Amanda K...jazziza<br /><br />The article title is "Could Amanda Knox Have an Autism Spectrum Disorder?" in the body of the article it states "like many autistic people, Knox was highly intelligent but also extremely naïve and gullible". With those two references TIME is misrepresenting persons with AUTISM has being highly intelligent. The World Health Organization stated in September 2013 that 50% of persons with autism disorders also have an intellectual disability. THAT is an accurate representation of autism and intelligence. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-21553274328763601592013-10-26T19:57:35.979-03:002013-10-26T19:57:35.979-03:00The article did not say "autism", it sai...The article did not say "autism", it said "Asperger". That is not the same. Asperger belongs into the spectrum of autism, it is a milder variant of autism. See http://www.helpguide.org/mental/autism_spectrum.htm<br /><br />Also your own quote does not say that people with autism are highly intelligent. In fact it does say this about people with Asperger. I am quoting you here:<br />"Persons diagnosed with Asperger’s Disorder have average to above average intellectual functioning."<br />jazzizahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18066982011204782480noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-40558645730661063332011-07-03T04:33:11.686-03:002011-07-03T04:33:11.686-03:00You assume much "autitz". I have read t...You assume much "autitz". I have read the article you link to a couple of years ago. I have long been aware that some autistic persons have some strong specific skill sets. My information about autism and intellectual disabilities is taken from objective, credible sources like the Canadian Psychological Association and the US Centers for Disease Control (CDC).Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-49864095639431279192011-07-02T21:05:34.068-03:002011-07-02T21:05:34.068-03:00I assume you will not read the following article b...I assume you will not read the following article because it begins with Amanda Baggs, so I will quote a relevant section (though indeed most of the article is relevant), and then you can decide later if you want to read more of something you do not agree with.<br /><br />Begin quoted material:<br />"autistic smarts have been underestimated because the tools for assessing intelligence depend on techniques ill-suited to autistics. The researchers administered two different intelligence tests to 51 children and adults diagnosed with autism and to 43 non-autistic children and adults.<br /><br />The first test, known as the Wechsler Intelligence Scale, has helped solidify the notion of peaks of ability amid otherwise pervasive mental retardation among autistics. The other test is Raven's Progressive Matrices, which requires neither a race against the clock nor a proctor breathing down your neck. The Raven is considered as reliable as the Wechsler, but the Wechsler is far more commonly used.<br /><br />What the researchers found was that while non-autistic subjects scored just about the same — a little above average — on both tests, the autistic group scored much better on the Raven. Two individuals' scores swung from the mentally retarded range to the 94th percentile. More significantly, the subset of autistic children in the study scored roughly 30 percentile points higher on the Raven than they did on the more language-dependent Wechsler, pulling all but a couple of them out of the range for mental retardation."<br />End quoted material.<br />Link:<br />http://www.wired.com/medtech/health/magazine/16-03/ff_autism?currentPage=allautizthttps://autizt.wordpress.com/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-90372140342297198542011-07-02T19:38:18.272-03:002011-07-02T19:38:18.272-03:00autismandoughtisms I do not agree with your interp...autismandoughtisms I do not agree with your interpretation. <br /><br />Saying MANY autistic people are highly intelligent when 80% of those with autistic disorder and 41-44% of those with PDD's now commonly called ASD's are intellectually disabled is misleading. <br /><br />The Merriam-Webster Dictionary states:<br /><br />Definition of MANY<br /><br />1<br />: consisting of or amounting to a large but indefinite number <br />2<br />: being one of a large but indefinite number <br />— as many<br /><br />The FREE dictionary states:<br /><br />man·y (mn)<br />adj. more (môr, mr), most (mst)<br />1. Being one of a large indefinite number; numerous: many a child; many another day.<br />2. Amounting to or consisting of a large indefinite number: many friends.<br />n. (used with a pl. verb)<br />1. A large indefinite number: A good many of the workers had the flu.<br />2. The majority of the people; the masses: "The many fail, the one succeeds" (Tennyson).<br />pron. (used with a pl. verb)<br />A large number of persons or things: "For many are called, but few are chosen" (Matthew 22:14).<br />Idiom:<br />as manyAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-24980659110329592562011-07-02T19:36:58.116-03:002011-07-02T19:36:58.116-03:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-662089556824519892011-07-02T18:31:59.220-03:002011-07-02T18:31:59.220-03:00I agree that it's annoying how often autism an...I agree that it's annoying how often autism and intelligence are almost eqated, although it would still annoy me if it was about Asperger's Syndrome. Autistics run the gamut of intelligence, and Asperger's people runt he gamut of normal (or even mildly intellectually disabled in some countries, like the Netherlands) to superior intelligence I am myself highly intelligent (as measured by verbal IQ), but I feel that having that thrown in, overlooks the difficulties that many autistics, including those of high intelligence, face.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-60857367354947704992011-07-02T17:22:46.428-03:002011-07-02T17:22:46.428-03:00"like many autistic people, Knox was highly i..."like many autistic people, Knox was highly intelligent but also extremely naïve and gullible".<br /><br />I don't read that sentence in the way you have, and I'd suggest it wasn't written to imply the way you've read it either. It's factually correct, because "many" references a large number of people, not a large proportion of people from the relevant group. If trying to convey the latter, they would have used a word like "most" or "the majority". You've taken it to be read as if it said "most".<br /><br />In the same way that I can factually say "many people in the USA are Chinese" but I am not claiming that most or even a large proportion of people in the USA are Chinese (or change the words to whatever - "have pink hair", or "commit suicide", etc).<br /><br />This might seem like nit-picking, but it's not. If you just read "many" as "many" instead of some other word, your objections disappear. Or perhaps they repeat it elsewhere in the article in a different way that confirms your reading?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com