tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post5131160696687854753..comments2024-02-13T21:31:57.980-04:00Comments on Facing Autism in New Brunswick: Simon Baron-Cohen Reiterates: Autism Results From Genetic AND Environmental FactorsAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-37737261139647367672011-12-12T15:50:17.460-04:002011-12-12T15:50:17.460-04:00Blah, blah, blah---not impressed with your intelle...Blah, blah, blah---not impressed with your intellectual posturing--Ever read the book, "How to Lie With Statistics"?---Pharmaceutical companies must keep it on the shelf by the good Scotch because they sure have perfected the art. The point is that you can intellectualize the problem till hell freezes over but you can never change the fact mercury is, among other biological horrors, a developmental neurotoxin! I don't care how many Phds you obtain it has always been an uncontionable evil with nation destroying repercussions to contrive to inject it in any amount into our beautiful children.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-5848125650879300692009-01-23T23:57:00.000-04:002009-01-23T23:57:00.000-04:00I watched a recent program on National Geographic ...I watched a recent program on National Geographic about identical that was VERY interesting (http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/series/in-the-womb/4048/Overview). If anyone is interested in the genetics of identical twins (and the diseases they acquire and whatnot) than I highly recommend it as it gives a very good overview for the layperson. The website on it doesn't delve into the genetics of twins like the program did but if you can find the episode somewhere watch it.Stephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12540927559726674184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-42244228778751054142009-01-23T01:55:00.000-04:002009-01-23T01:55:00.000-04:00The 60 % figure is probably from this studyA revie...The 60 % figure is probably from this study<BR/><BR/>A review of: Losh, M., Sullivan, P.F., Trembath, D., Piven, J. (2008). Current Developments in the Genetics of Autism: From Phenome to Genome. Journal of Neuropathology and Experimental Neurology, 67(9), 829-837. DOI: 10.1097/NEN.0b013e318184482d <BR/><BR/><BR/>The information that 75% of those with an "identical" twin with autism who don't have autism itself will have an ASD is from<BR/><BR/>Am J Psychiatry 161:539-546, March 2004<BR/><BR/>The study which showed the 60% concordance in monozygotic twins listed a 3-5% concordance for fraternal twins.<BR/><BR/>I'm not against looking at environmental factors. I don't expect that research will prove fruitful, but I'm not sure enough to leave than stone unturnedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-88921836003437546672009-01-22T21:02:00.000-04:002009-01-22T21:02:00.000-04:00MyflyEven if is true (what isn’t) that; “if one mo...Myfly<BR/><BR/>Even if is true (what isn’t) that; “if one monozygotic twin has autism there is a 90% chance the other will have an ASD.” it still doesn’t mean that the Autism is genetically determined. At the moment it is not known why one sibling can be affected with autism and because of that it is not known how to protect other sibling.<BR/><BR/>Here is the link that put more light about monozygotic twin and autism.<BR/><BR/>if one twin is diagnosed with autism, the other twin has a 70-90% chance of having a similar diagnosis (Steffenburg et al. 1989, Folstein and Rosen-Sheidley 2001). The severity of the condition in identical twins, however, may differ considerably. (Bailey et al. 1995) In dizygotic (fraternal) twins, if one is diagnosed with autism, the chance of the other having a similar diagnosis is to 5-10%. Non-twin siblings of people with autism also have a 3-8% chance of having the same diagnosis, which is more than a 10-fold increase in risk compared to the general population. (Rutter et al. 1997)<BR/>http://www.healthandenvironment.org/autism<BR/><BR/> In my opinion no one child is genetically predetermined to develop autism. Theories about genetically susceptibility aren’t product of science but are product of IntelliGENE- design-belief[/IntelliGENE Design Theory. Most of the gene theories are nonsense or a quackery based on a grain of science. <BR/><BR/>Luke TunyichAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-58144937918025906452009-01-22T17:11:00.000-04:002009-01-22T17:11:00.000-04:00MaflyI quoted Simon Baron-Cohen as he articulated ...Mafly<BR/><BR/>I quoted Simon Baron-Cohen as he articulated the point on two occasions. Assuming your unattributed data to be correct they still support the proposition that environmental factors cause Autistic Disorders AND ASD's.<BR/><BR/>Do you think research should be conducted to determine what environmental factors are involved?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-89635413047260969352009-01-22T16:47:00.000-04:002009-01-22T16:47:00.000-04:00The 60% figure is for autism itself. Of the remai...The 60% figure is for autism itself. Of the remaining 40%, 75% will be positive for an ASD,<BR/>that is, if one monozygotic twin has autism there is a 90% chance the other will have an ASD.<BR/><BR/>Both figures need to quoted.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com