tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post8331229160863646790..comments2024-02-13T21:31:57.980-04:00Comments on Facing Autism in New Brunswick: Catherine Lord Confesses: DSM-5 Autism Spectrum Disorder Intended To Exclude Intellectually DisabledAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-85412403906241079372012-01-23T17:11:04.766-04:002012-01-23T17:11:04.766-04:00This is the information I was looking for.This is the information I was looking for.JonathanNhttp://www.nedcon.ro/noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-7606945927898424612012-01-22T13:46:34.754-04:002012-01-22T13:46:34.754-04:00Jon Brock your condescension is noted and is of no...Jon Brock your condescension is noted and is of no persuasive value. The "scaremongering" you refer to is nothing more than name calling and could equally be written about the Asperger's articles in the NYT that precipitated the latest round of discussion. It could also be applied to articles about PDD-NOS and the DSM5 at the "Thinking" Persons Guide to Autism.<br /><br />The intent of any written document whether in law, which I have practiced for 28 years, or in psychiatry/psychology is determined first by what is written in the document. In the instant case the description for the new Autism Spectrum Disorder uses language "not accounted for by general developmental delays" which is similar that used in the DSM-IV to exclude an Autistic Disorder diagnosis where Rett's Disorder is involved: "C. The disturbance is not better accounted for by Rett's disorder or childhood disintegrative disorder".<br /><br />Your reference to the statements of intent by some involved in the DSM5 process also ignores entirely the "unintended consequences" of the DSM-IV as articulated ad infinitum by Dr. Allen Frances of the DSM-IV oversight team. Your reliance on such statements of intent also ignores the express confession by Dr. Lord. The aim is to reduce the number of "co-morbid" ASD and ID diagnoses. <br /><br />You may place great reliance on the word "fallback" as a research professional with a Neurodiversity ideological outlook. As the father of a severely autistic son I don't place my son's realities on such a flimsy basis. <br /><br />Please be clear on one thing ... I am offended by your dismissal of my concerns on this issue directly related to my son's well being which you, not surprisingly given your Neurodiversity leanings, dismiss as unimportant.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-50829969758155045572012-01-22T11:00:11.480-04:002012-01-22T11:00:11.480-04:00Perhaps the most clear and convincing way to prove...Perhaps the most clear and convincing way to prove the DSM V revisions are arbitrary, capricious, and irrational discrimination under Title II of the Americans With Disabilities Act and Sec. 504 (in the US) is Catherine Lord et al's "revision" of the three categories you mention does not ANYWHERE address the so-called high functioning person with Autism who can ONLY demonstrate the so called "high functioning" Online, but is as severely Autistic as a person can come IRL (in real person). Likewise, if the Autistic person is judged in person, they could be given one of the Intellectual Disability classifications, despite being able to effectively communicate Online(and have an American Bar Assn accredited law degree). The DSM V "revisions" ARE NOT SCIENCE-EVIDENCE BASED. How is the gut microbiome PHYSICAL bacteria differences biomarker of Autism a "mental disorder" to give the DSM V jurisdiction over these Autism physical medical conditions ? Catherine Lord was in no small part responsible to screwing up Autism diagnoses and funding in Michigan, before she had to jump ship and feel Michigan. The DSM V has NO credibility and should be sued for injunctive relief to bar use of it for Autism and the other "revised" conditions.EquiisSavanthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06217584981972939792noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-87373321213338796852012-01-22T07:35:36.566-04:002012-01-22T07:35:36.566-04:00Harold c'mon. Enough of this scaremongering. T...Harold c'mon. Enough of this scaremongering. There are real and important issues to debate about the development of DSM 5. This isn't one of them.<br /><br />"the goal was to ensure that autism was not used as a “fallback diagnosis” for children whose primary trait might be, for instance, an intellectual disability or aggression."<br /><br />That does <b>not</b> mean that anyone who has intellectual disability will be excluded from having an autism diagnosis. It means that they're trying to clearly differentiate between people who have autism and intellectual disability and those who just have intellectual disability.<br /><br />Here (again) is the response from Prof Francesca Happe (also involved in DSM 5) when I alerted her to your concerns in June last year:<br /><br />"It had not occurred to me that our wording about general developmental delay could lead to excluding people with ID from ASD - <b>certainly not the intention</b>."drbrocktagonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15225859145004971487noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-68253089651983315662012-01-21T23:44:50.210-04:002012-01-21T23:44:50.210-04:00Hm. If these people were in charge of regular medi...Hm. If these people were in charge of regular medical practice, I'd go to a doctor for my arm hurting, who would inevitably prescribe a sling and a painkiller, whether the real problem was a bruised arm or a broken one.<br /><br />Alleviating symptoms is important. Providing general coping mechanisms that apply to certain symptoms is important. But dealing with the fundamental problem is also <b>very</b> important. It sounds as if some of these people want to abandon really dealing with difficult autism cases and hide them within intellectual disability in general.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-12996148133373142722012-01-21T16:54:08.674-04:002012-01-21T16:54:08.674-04:00Yeah I remember reading about it here way way befo...Yeah I remember reading about it here way way before, and now there are articles abound the internet about it and people are waking up!Strandedhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16819973077683697310noreply@blogger.com