tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post7984336792402675341..comments2024-02-13T21:31:57.980-04:00Comments on Facing Autism in New Brunswick: Misleading Autism Treatment Statements at About.com AutismAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-51157722446456203292009-05-13T17:31:00.000-03:002009-05-13T17:31:00.000-03:00Hello "BigAutism"
Lovaas results referenced 47% b...Hello "BigAutism"<br /><br />Lovaas results referenced 47% being indistinguishable from peers by the time they finished their 40 hours a week, ages 2-5. <br /><br />It said nothing about recovery, long term. 10=20% is a very substantial rate of FULL recovery. And If you read the rest of my comment you will also read what the MADSEC and AAP reports said about the hundreds of studies confirming specific gains ... improvements short of recovery.<br /><br />I am sure you are happy for the 10-20% who are recovered from their autism disorders and the others who have reduced problem behaviors such as self injury and who acquired specific intellectual, communciation and social skills short of recovery. <br /><br />As for your Big Autism Industry what are you talking about? Do you have anything to explain that "concept" and back it up?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-70679824544327197582009-05-13T16:24:00.000-03:002009-05-13T16:24:00.000-03:00"Coming on the heels of the recent Deborah Fein st..."Coming on the heels of the recent Deborah Fein study showing that 10-20% of subject children with autism recovered from their autism with Intensive Early Behavioral Intervention ... ABA ."<br /><br />I assume it's an ever windingly lower standard. We started with 47% (Lovaas 87') and now we are down to 10-20%. At some point, perhaps in another 20 years, we'll be down again to perhaps 1-5% and another generation of parents will feel as though they were "suckered" out of thousands of dollars better spent on special needs trusts etc. The Big Autism industry will continue to churn.BigAutismhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XONcrtYUr_snoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-2209755310637552152009-05-13T14:01:00.000-03:002009-05-13T14:01:00.000-03:00I am sorry Lisa Jo but I can't reconcile your posi...I am sorry Lisa Jo but I can't reconcile your position, stand by it or not, with the various and numerous studies and reviews that have found ABA, and to date only ABA, as effective in making the kinds of gains detailed in the MADSEC and AAP reports.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-4456919250123293402009-05-13T13:39:00.000-03:002009-05-13T13:39:00.000-03:00Hey, Harold.
I stand by my statement: we have n...Hey, Harold. <br /><br />I stand by my statement: we have no way to compare either/or outcomes. So far as I'm aware, no one has conducted such a study on a cohort of similar kiddos to see which therapies are more likely to support which outcomes.<br /><br />In addition, while ABA is obviously well-documented, research studies are increasingly supporting the efficacy of developmental therapies.<br /><br />Bottom line: I would never discourage anyone from going the ABA route. But by the same token, I believe there is a great deal to be said for several of the developmental therapies (Floortime, RDI, Play Project).<br /><br />As I said in a response to your comment on my own blog, the question of what "success" looks like is very real. That is: is "success" a child who is able to manage in a typical classroom? Or is there more to being fully human?<br /><br />Lisa (www.autism.about.com)Lisa Jo Rudyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07517170138121456391noreply@blogger.com