tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post2969455317266874522..comments2024-02-13T21:31:57.980-04:00Comments on Facing Autism in New Brunswick: Autism Education in the Era of the NBACL Inclusion GovernmentAnonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-45561751293533895412012-04-27T21:42:35.767-03:002012-04-27T21:42:35.767-03:00Kate T
Perhaps you could read what the NBACL says...Kate T<br /><br />Perhaps you could read what the NBACL says about inclusion on its web site. What follows is only a very very small selection of statements by NBACL which point to the REGULAR CLASSROOM as the goal of inclusive education. I have posted many times recently and over the years about the statements of position by people like NBACL/CACL icon Gordon Porter who talks incessantly about the regular classroom for all students as the aim of inclusive education. I have also related my personal experience as an Autism representative during the MacKay and Ministerial Inclusive Education review during which the NBACL emphasized their view of inclusive education as being education for all in the REGULAR CLASSROOM. <br /><br />1.<br />http://www.nbacl.nb.ca/nbacl/NBACL-ANBIC/module3e/module3f.html<br /><br />Support for Inclusive Education <br /><br />Support for inclusive education can involve many things, including:<br /><br />The help your child receives for personal needs he or she has;<br /><br />Various “accommodations” children with disabilities may need to participate in regular school and classroom activities;<br /><br />The overall support from the school including the leadership and commitment necessary to include all children;<br /><br />Different ways of thinking about what and how children are taught so that all children can participate in regular classrooms and school activities.<br /><br />...<br /><br /> The secret is to find out how the subject being taught in the regular classroom can be used to benefit a particular child. <br /><br />...<br /><br />When a decision is made to modify curriculum, people involved in planning for your child’s inclusion in regular classrooms should look at each subject to see what information, concepts or skills may be relevant for your child. <br /><br />...<br /><br />Key Roles of Principals and Regular Classroom Teachers <br /><br />Leadership from principals and teachers is often crucial to creating an inclusive school. If principals and teachers have a commitment to meeting the needs of all children, the inclusion of children with disabilities in the school and in regular classrooms will likely happen.<br /><br />2. http://www.nbacl.nb.ca/nbacl/NBACL-ANBIC/module3e/module3b.html<br /><br />Inclusive education is not just for some children. Being included is not something that a child must be ready for. All children are at all times ready to attend regular schools and classrooms. <br /><br />...<br /><br />Ways to Support Teachers and Your Child in Regular ClassroomsAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-2992325758419121162012-04-27T17:33:02.689-03:002012-04-27T17:33:02.689-03:00Thanks for clarifying, I knew I must have been mis...Thanks for clarifying, I knew I must have been misunderstanding. I appreciate how you could be advocating so strongly against forced full inclusion, given the sad experience your family has gone through.<br />I am wondering if you could point me in the direction of where to see evidence that NBACL is truly against accomodations where it is appropriate for the individual. I'm hoping that I haven't been supporting an organisation with a misguided understanding of what they truly represent. I was under the (perhaps?) mistaken impression that NBACL supported individualized accomodations, and inclusion as appropriate to each individual. As a passionate advocate for high school students with special needs, I'd like to make sure I haven't had the wool over my eyes all this time.Kate T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-20373283166778792052012-04-25T21:16:01.666-03:002012-04-25T21:16:01.666-03:00Kate T. with respect you don't appear to have ...Kate T. with respect you don't appear to have read my comments correctly.<br /><br />1. I agree with FLEXIBLE Inclusion. That means a range of options depending on the best interests of the individual child based on the evidence. I<br /><br />2. NBACL & Gordon Porter promote FULL inclusion defined as regular classroom placement for ALL students. Please read my comments carefully. Also take into account that I have been actively involved in the MacKay and Ministerial Inclusive Education reviews as well as having been an Autism Society NB rep in various Education Department discussions. NBACL opposes accommodations for instruction outside the classroom which my son received despite the opposition to such accommodations by NBACL.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05838571980003579163noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-50097726007256362812012-04-25T16:11:43.280-03:002012-04-25T16:11:43.280-03:00I think I might be missing something here. I don&#...I think I might be missing something here. I don't want to sound all devil's advocate, but I want to be sure I am clear on the issues before I form an opinion. Having spent many years working with children with Autism in more than one province, I have seen both the benefits and the disadvantages to full inclusion. What I'm failing to grasp here, is that it sounds like you are against inclusion period? For many students, it is appropriate to be included in a classroom of their peers, and with individualized supports it is very successful. The schools I have worked with recognise that full inclusion is NOT appropriate for everyone, and have developed IEPs, emphasis on the I for Individual. I don't see where NBACL is said to promote FULL and absolute Inclusion. It soundsto me like they are seeking individualized inclusion, where appropriate, and desired by the parents. Am I interpreting NBACL's position incorrectly?Kate T.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-41738211112303760072012-04-22T13:16:19.460-03:002012-04-22T13:16:19.460-03:00Why don't parents revolt... Simple... there ar...Why don't parents revolt... Simple... there are very few of us that truly give a s....t. <br /><br />EVERY person that deals with disabled children or any child for that matter will tell you that 25% of the parents work day in and day out to provide the necessary supports, education etc that these children need. 75% want it done for them.<br /><br />I had such a discussion only last night with a teacher and she'll tell you that usually they are told "you're the educator, you deal with it". So, the system cuts everywhere and anywhere it can... Especially, with this movement - and in autismland too - that being disabled is a "way of being" not a disability... So, they cut services and money. If you aren't "disabled" then you don't need it.... right???<br /><br />http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/national/toronto/tdsb-cuts-teachers-office-staff-to-balance-budget/article2392627/<br /><br />Harold, I know absolutely nothing about The Human Rights Commission nor the Charter but since people use them for silly demands... can you use it for this??<br /><br />We may disagree on a number of things but I have always, always, always, lobbied for CHOICE in care and treatment options. This does not allow for people to make a choice that fits their needs... this is "my way is the best" and I don't respect that.<br /><br />I hope in the end you get what you need for you and yours.farmwifetwohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02680758336779501712noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-13272687324933406462012-04-21T17:33:54.493-03:002012-04-21T17:33:54.493-03:00The conflict with Minister Carr and his wife being...The conflict with Minister Carr and his wife being the Executive Director of the NBACL is blatant and in your face. Gordon Porter's affiliation with Premier Alward as a campaign manager is well known. Porter and others have made $$$$$$$ out of inclusion and new service delivery models in NB. <br />All of a sudden since the Conservatives were elected, NBACL has lots of money. <br />If the new inclusion model puts all kids in "regular" classrooms, parents should revolt. <br />Just what is it with this government anyway?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-54658691854455043152012-04-21T12:54:04.538-03:002012-04-21T12:54:04.538-03:00I fail to understand why the opposition has not ca...I fail to understand why the opposition has not called up the Conservatives on the blatant conflict of interest with having Minister Carr's wife still in place as Executive Director of the NBCLA.The opposition needs to step up to their role and challenge both this issue and the loss of the UNB training programme. Just exactly who is listening? the former Minister Shryver herself said there would be a psunami of need from the autistic population, and it is most definitely here already.Cynthia Bartlettnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-58055999666948214632012-04-21T10:53:51.298-03:002012-04-21T10:53:51.298-03:00This is a very sad day for New Brunswick children ...This is a very sad day for New Brunswick children who have problems being "dumped" into the mainstream classroom. As a retired educator, I have always maintained that total inclusion is detrimental to good education for all. I remember having a classroom of 28 students, six of whom were regular stream, 14 were at a level four, six were mentally challenged and two were place there by the court. In short, it was impossible to teach these children so that all would benefit...as a matter of fact, all suffered. I mentioned this to my principal and he said you just have to do the best you can with them. The following semester, the principal and vice principal had to teach math to these students and they very nicely divided the classroom in two and the two students that were placed there by the court were removed from the class and put into the library for tutoring. So much for inclusion. <br />While I was minister of FCS, I remember talking with a parent who has an intellectually challenged child and this parent said it is criminal to have total inclusion and he felt his son suffered because of this policy. Some children may benefit from the program, but many suffer.<br />The other issue I have with the Alward government's decision is that they are disbanding the UNB program for specialized training for children with autism. This program was heralded as the best program in North America.<br />Again, it is sad that a premier, who said he would listen to the people, all of a sudden has become deaf.cabinfever07https://www.blogger.com/profile/09163412539997154223noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-33052404.post-73265315901440966552012-04-21T09:40:19.297-03:002012-04-21T09:40:19.297-03:00Harold, you have raised and continue to raise very...Harold, you have raised and continue to raise very real concerns, and validated them with hard-core facts. I am not saying inclusion(overall) is not a good thing, the opposite in fact in a broad sense. However, there is a very serious flaw within it which you are bringing to the forefront, yet again. The DOE must listen with an open mind. But with Gordon Porter there, and NBACL with its influence..and by the way NBACL -> CONFLICT OF INTEREST...means we must keep on raising the issue both as parents, and as a collective group representing Autism in New Brunswick.<br /><br />I am 'in' on this debate and issue!<br /><br />Dawn BowieAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com